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      I suspect a lot of “evil admirals” were promoted by votes from, or just to appease, reactionary political movements.

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      Yeah kinda. In politics there’s going to be scenarios someone has to choose between doing the right thing or doing what’s best for their career. And yeah, militaries have politics at the top, just not the left-right politics that’s common in a democracy. These political scenarios filter out the “do the right thing” people and prevent them from advancing to the top. Not all of the time, but often enough that there’s a higher percentage of shitty people in leadership positions then you’ll find in the general population.

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      Or all the competent officers refuse to take desk jobs when they can fly around space enjoying all the green women (and men) they can find.

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    Stupid question: What admirals are we talking about here?

    Here are the admirals I remember from 90s trek

    • Janeway, who got the job because she was hyper competent at killing Borg.
    • Picard, who we can assume is generally good at his job
    • That dude who was a dick to Riker, who ended up being really good at his job
    • Ross, who was generally good at his job, even if Section 31 kinda did whatever they wanted
    • That admiral who showed up and told Picard he was an idiot for not using Hugh to kill the Borg
    • Those admirals that were all secretly alien worms or something
    • Tom Paris’s dad, who was just kinda there
    • The lady running the inquisition, who clearly got the role in no small part due to her father
    • That other admiral who ended the inquisition trials after he saw what I shitshow the entire thing was.

    In general they seemed pretty good at their job.

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        I feel like you lose your right to complain about being victims of genocide after the second or third alien race you yourself genocide, especially when your entire race is essentially a bunch of enslaved thralls who almost always bounce the second they get free will back.

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          All the Borg do is try to make the lives of others better. They give people a euphoric feeling while bringing them closer to perfection.

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            Nah, mate. I’m all for an eternally growing, infinitely improving race of robots, but the Borg did it wrong.

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          There’s a lot of interesting ethical concerns about the Borg Collevtive. It’s easy to think of it as some big, alien, external force that erases minds and uses the bodies as flesh puppets. But that isn’t how they’re described at all. The people are all still there, that big scary intelligence is made up from merging all their minds together. Obviously, the consent issue is problematic, and we know people generally find it horrific when they are freed. But the fact is, the majority of the Hivemind apparently don’t mind, the hive mind is made up from the gestalt of the individuals, and that is the only thing keeping individuals from leaving.

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    The good ones commit crimes to get themselves busted back down to captain.