• Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social
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    Mormons with a starship?

    Do you want bugs to drop a rock on Buenos Aires? Because that’s how you get bugs to drop a rock on Buenos Aires.

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      It’s not exactly Mormons that you need here. Just to point out, but the bugs on that movie are completely unable to redirect a space rock in any way.

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        They’ve got bugs that can shoot spaceships out of orbit with their butts. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to think they could knock an asteroid out of orbit.

        Though considering your username it might be you dropping the rocks.

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          They have almost zero space presence, they only attack the ships from the ground. The only thing they can do with space is sending eggs away. (And those asteroids weren’t knocked out of orbit, they were sent though hyperspace.)

          Besides, the movie makes it pretty clear they just discovered they are in a war a few weeks prior.

          (And now I’m wondering how the fuck do I remember that well a movie I’ve seen once, a long time ago… Is it actually good and I didn’t notice at the time?)

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            That was the point. In the books, the bugs had been flinging rocks towards the outer colonies for years, but the attack on Buenos Aires is heavily implied to be an inside job to rally support for an invasion, since they did not have hyperspace tech and no attack had reached the inner worlds, let alone Earth.

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              I’m finding it very funny, because I though it was incredibly obvious on the movie, and nobody would ever disagree.

              Indeed, the movie is way too busy, so it’s easy to miss that there are no insects on space, or that the bugs weren’t even aware they were been systematically attacked until “now”. But it’s one of those things that I expected to be completely obvious once pointed out. It’s even more obvious than what you are narrating from the book, because on the movie Earth has been receiving those rocks for decades.

              I imagine people missing the point is part of the point of it. It’s like that gorilla video.

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              Hum… Either the brain bugs that started being created weeks prior discovered some mechanism they have been using to bombard the Earth for decades… Or the military speakerheads and the news that lie about literally every single thing we see happening lied about something else.

              That’s indeed a difficult choice.

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      In the Star Trek timeline, all Mormons left Earth on a sleeper ship for uncharted space. Over the centuries they devolved into the Pakleds. /headcanon

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    Related: I just spent 2 weeks doing a fanedit of STV. I will die on the hill that the plot is good if you can get around most of the silly humor of Shatner (which obviously I removed), as well as most of the weird shit between Scotty and Uhura.

    At the core, it is a sweeping critique of religion and charlatanism. Larry Luckenbill as Sybok is one of the great performances in all of Trekdom.

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        I haven’t figured out distribution yet but you can bet I’ll be sharing with the community here (even if only for discussion).

        Some of my favorite edits are actually in discussions between Kirk, Spock, and Bones. In one scene Bones has weird jokes that don’t really fit the tone of Spock’s exposition. It was a challenge to get around them, but I think I did it quite successfully, and it adds some needed gravitas to those portions.

        Anyway, yes – it’ll be available somehow.

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      I would love to see what the fan edit looks like. I (re)watched it just last week and the theatrical cut is… a mess, to put it gently. There’s almost too much going on, with not enough focus on the elements that make the story tick. But there’s lots to work with here that would make a very high-production-value 50 minute Trek episode.

      Scotty and Uhura’s flirting was cute, but it doesn’t go anywhere so it’s dead weight film-wise. But without it, the characters have even less to say in an already crowded story. It’s just sad.

      One moment that stuck out to me was the bar fight. Kirk just tosses a Catian stripper, over his head, into a literal “pool” table and she’s rendered dead/unconscious floating face down in the water. Either she has bones like a baby bird or Kirk is on 'roids. I can’t make sense of that edit unless there was a longer fight that got chopped down somehow. It makes zero sense.