By Trek’s logic, Tuvix’s identical copy lives in an alternative universe of some sort. And that’s really the only way to justify all this.

Ed: Also the “Oh wait, they can’t speak so someone has to speak for them” has some interesting implications, doesn’t it.

How about outside Trek… Have you seen The Orville? At least the first season is more laugh than serious. Also Firefly.

The only good thing about this Avatar was a decent videogame tie-in.

It’s pretty clear what’s going on here - they deliberately made the blandest, most derivative story they could, so you can turn off your brain. I guess that might work for porn films and to some degree for normal movies too, but I can’t get behind using blandness so excessively.

The CGI ain’t saving that. (I don’t even like those aliens personally.) I find that this thing and the sequel being the most grossing films of all time, to be an insult to filmmaking and especially storytelling.

Possibly… It’s true that people want instant gratification, and also true that pilots tend to kinda suck (see B5 actually).

I think these days the show creators have gotten better at hitting the ground running from the start.

That’s pretty much the case of S01 of any series, especially sci-fi, especially from the 90’s.

What’s a huus sabatage and what’s posting it?

Sorry but that’s a horrible idea… The whole point of ‘planting seeds’ is how the pieces fall together in succession.

Maybe I’m the only one who likes S05 just as much. Yea it’s not as bombastic in scope, but you still get the same great characters and universe.

Best thing since slice bread. You just have to accept it looks cheap and old.

Oh geez, gifs have made it to 24th century? I should’ve known.

This scene made me wonder how effective recycling is in Trek. If a pocket watch can be recycled to make a meal or boots, well damn, that’s like 500% effectiveness?

So they can make new shuttles just by recycling old shuttles or anything else, and always have more shit left over.

Yea, by being actually good.

(To be clear, I’m joking. Kinda.)

I still think the SW universe has some completely different physics than ours. Speed of light, time, stuff like that just don’t work the same way. I think it’s some sort of microscopic fluidic space equivalent to a much younger our universe. After all, it occurs “a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away”.

Now, Starfleet crews commonly deal with all kinds of alternate universes and they tend to survive (at least if they have a show about them), so I’d still give Starfleet an edge. People im the SW universe get screwed way more often - unknown regions, hyperspace, galactic barrier… Everything we’ve seen Trek crews survive.

Sisko be like: oh yea those genocidal shape shifting freaks that have contempt for everything that isn’t them and can ruin any government from within, have a billion-strong army of generically engineered suicidal supersoldiers armed to the teeth with resources of an entire quadrant. Aight brb, lemme grab our mortal enemies to work for us, and then I’ll talk to my multidimensional gods pals for assistance.

You could’ve always muted the sound.

I actually like it. TNG’s theme was annoyingly bombastic to my ears, DS9’s is basically nothing, Voy is okay I guess.

Not saying ENT song was the best choice there could be, but I don’t know why it should be gospel that ST has to have orchestral tunes. And for a prequel that was about how it all started, I think it was fine to go with something different.

And it’s not like an opening theme is a dealbreaker either way. I always skip the opening credits on the shows where they go for over a minute. I think for people who don’t like ENT (it’s not exactly popular) this is just another notch.

BTW I’m half way through SNW S02 and I’m not tired of its opening. First time ST nailed it in my book.

Have you seen how people do programming? We see lots of it in Voyager around holograms. It’s basically today’s AI programming assistants on steroids. everything probably uses some fucking 300 years JavaScript as a basis, and that’s why everything keeps breaking all the time.

I find it almost bizarre if DS9 isn’t someone’s favourite, unless a) they haven’t watched it, or b) they’re really against grey and murky morality (which a lot of TOS fans apparently are).

That said, I also think Picard S03 was unbelievably horrible. There’s fan service and there’s absolutely mindless trash like this. When I hear about reliving past glories of TNG, I’m thinking episodes like Tapestry or The Inner Light and not something Genesis-level of contrivance.

SNW rehashes everything from older shows, but at least isn’t dumbed down too much.

Wdym, Burton has a normal photo and the character is named among the others. Stewart’s picture is from a performance, so also different.

Also funny how you’re complaining about someone not getting named, and you’re just referring to him as a black man.

I respect it more, but I still can’t get into it. I find that the feeling they were going for - wild west in space - just doesn’t gel at all with the story of a futuristic utopian Federation and (essentially) a milliary grade ship with professional personel.

There are episodes where it’s one or the other, and not the combination of both, that work the best.

I think the TNG era managed to get away from this weird sense very well while still paying homage. But on ENT it shows how trying to follow in those footsteps can give weird results. All the criticism ENT has gotten is really the result of trying to make sense of TOS.

Ironically, VOY had the most opportunity to run with the wild west theme, and I guess they couldn’t figure it out either. Maybe SNW has, from what I’ve heard.