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Rewatched the episode recently and it’s… well it’s certainly something. Still really confused by one thing and one thing alone though.
So Tom goes Warp 10 and became lizard. He takes Janeway who becomes lizard. They find 'em and Doc is able to revert both of them with no lasting problems at all.
So why didn’t they just Warp 10 the whole fucking ship to the Alpha Quadrant, lock out all controls via some DNA check thing to see how lizard they are, and then have Doc fix them when they got there?
The uh, subspace distortion would be too large, leading to a, hmm, an inversion of the polarity of the uh, bio molecular engram fields of the crew.
Yes, that will do.
What’s really fucking annoying is that my ‘Devils Advocate’ Star Trek brain started putting together how that might work.
We know that subspace distortions impact quite a lot. We also know that people have memory engrams. So… why not? The ‘argument’ that came out immediately was:
Subspace distortions are fine in small quantities but when you’re being flung across the galaxy, it’s not quite as safe. With those distances, the humanoid brain can’t stand up to those rigors. The Doctor would likely survive, but the distortion would eventually cause a polarity reversal for most organic brains. Instead of saving memory engrams, it starts slowly deleting them. Leading to the unfortunate consequence that by the time they’re in the Alpha Quadrant, even if they could be de-lizarded, they would have no memories of who they were before that.
You know what? Accepted. I accept your explanation.
I’ve been enlightened.
Some episodes serve as reminders of the participatory nature of suspension of disbelief.
Voyager’s tagline right fucking there.
Star Trek: Voyager.
Some Episodes Serve as Reminders of the Participatory Nature of Suspension of Disbelief!
Watch now.
I haven’t seen it in a while, but I don’t think they had a way of “steering” at warp 10.
Yes and no, you’d be moving so fast the computer couldn’t do anything you’d simply be one place and then another crossing every point in-between.
It’s theorized that q is the reason for the weird lizard bullshitery and it was to prevent anyone leaving the galaxy at warp 10 and reemerge outside of q control and well into the territory q’s do not control and likely fear.
Whoever wrote that episode was stoned out of their mind.
The important thing about Voyager is to tell stories that don’t go anywhere. Like the time I needed to recalibrate the holodeck’s stablization matrix. Well, I glued on fake sideburns to my face, as was the style at the time, so that I could go to deck 34, which in those days was called 33b. Where was I? Oh yeah, the important thing was that I had glued on fake sideburns to my face, as was the style at the time.
Listen. I know it’s a joke. I know. It’s not meant to be taken seriously. But I am cackling for the completely wrong image.
Voyager has 15 decks.
I am dying laughing at the idea of someone getting to the outer surface of the hull and then climbing, somehow, on invisible stairs until much further into space itself, the whole time with sideburns glued to the EV suits helmet.
I need sleep. So bad.
We couldn’t say 15. That was the Gul’s word…
Ok?? Surely it doesn’t just end there? Did anyone compliment your sideburns or notice them appropriately?!
I’m going to be honest with you, these…uh…green drinks have made me a little woozy.
Let’s just play a video for the class and then sit silently for the remainder of the day.
I couldn’t ask for a better conclusion tbh
Okay grandpa Paris
I maintain a smallish list of alternate titles for certain episodes.
This is the one I use for Threshold.
Only watched that episode again yesterday, I did enjoy it. It was pretty cute that they both felt no shame for it naturally happening. But I feel they lost an opportunity to make something more happen as a consequence of travelling such speeds. Could have been a little cooler! :)
I’ve just watched Tuvix and it hurts to ignore how they produced two individuals with their memory intact and from DNA that surely is incomplete. I have to suspend my beliefs of course, it is a show I want to enjoy.
Though, I was very stoned and tired and probably missed someone’s psuedo science star trek explanation.
It’s been decades since I’ve seen it but wasn’t the reconstruction done from the data in the transporter pattern buffer or something?
It was indeed that, I’m guessing the missing mass of both of them must have been stored in the buffer. :)
Really good acting for Tuvix, must have been hard to only have one season as reference for the actor to mimic and merge both their behaviours and personalities.
