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Welp. It's official. #Redis is no longer #OSS
While I wasn't a contributor to the core, I presented on it dozens of times, talked to thousands, and wrote a book about it.
I probably wouldn't have done any of that with that kind of license.
Very disappointed.
It is no longer open source under the definition of Open Source Iniciative, FSF, Wikipedia, RedHat, Cambridge Dictionary, European Union, maybe even Redis themself… Only startups that want gratis marketing seems to disagree.
We had pretty much defined open source for the last 20+ years and one of the requirements is freedom of redistribution at least equal to the developer itself.
For what Redis is doing we already have term source available which makes perfect sense and both are well defined.
If you think open means just “you can see the code”, you must prove yourself at this point.
We had pretty much defined open source for the last 20+ years and one of the requirements is freedom of redistribution at least equal to the developer itself.
SSPL requires the source be made available for redistribution just like AGPL.
These terms have specific definitions, where each greater term is more specific than the lesser*.
SSPL is in the “Source Available” tier.
The OSI defines the term “open source,” and the FSF defines the term “free software.” The number one term of open source, greater than the availability of the source code, is the freedom to redistribute.
* Free Software isn’t exactly a subset of Open Source. There are a few licenses which are considered Free but not Open: the original BSD license, CC0, OpenSSL, WTFPL, XFree86 1.1, and Zope 1.0.
That’s not “source available” because the software is not released through a source code distribution model.
Companies may have access in order to produce better drivers or handle security incidents, but those are back-room deals, not part of Windows’ distribution model.
What a disingenuous take. Just because the OSI doesn’t recognize the SSPL as open source doesn’t mean it’s not open source.
Edit: Everyone seems to believe I’m saying that because the source is available it should be open source. That’s not what I’m saying at all.
It is no longer open source under the definition of Open Source Iniciative, FSF, Wikipedia, RedHat, Cambridge Dictionary, European Union, maybe even Redis themself… Only startups that want gratis marketing seems to disagree.
We had pretty much defined open source for the last 20+ years and one of the requirements is freedom of redistribution at least equal to the developer itself.
For what Redis is doing we already have term source available which makes perfect sense and both are well defined.
If you think open means just “you can see the code”, you must prove yourself at this point.
SSPL requires the source be made available for redistribution just like AGPL.
Source Available < Open Source < Free Software
These terms have specific definitions, where each greater term is more specific than the lesser*.
SSPL is in the “Source Available” tier.
The OSI defines the term “open source,” and the FSF defines the term “free software.” The number one term of open source, greater than the availability of the source code, is the freedom to redistribute.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_free_and_open-source_software_licenses
* Free Software isn’t exactly a subset of Open Source. There are a few licenses which are considered Free but not Open: the original BSD license, CC0, OpenSSL, WTFPL, XFree86 1.1, and Zope 1.0.
I don’t believe we should let the OSI and FSF be the absolute final say in what people consider to be open source/free software.
SSPL allows this.
Absolutely. The source of Windows is widely made available to innumerable third parties, yet I’ve never seen anyone claim that it’s open source.
I didn’t think the Windows source is widely available, only the compiled form.
.Net core is open source though.
A lot of large companies have access to the Windows source tree. It’s quite common.
That’s not “source available” because the software is not released through a source code distribution model.
Companies may have access in order to produce better drivers or handle security incidents, but those are back-room deals, not part of Windows’ distribution model.
That’s right.