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Can you get zip-ties in those holes?

Yeah I really don’t trust GUI package managers yet. I feel like they shouldn’t be that hard to get working properly, but I always seem to get quirky behavior when I try to use them. As for readability apt is one of the worse tools IMO. I’ve been using nala lately and really like how it lays out its operations. Contrast that format to what Linus saw in his video.

Maybe we could have a blacklist of packages/metapackages marked “important” that cause warnings, like xorg, pipewire, pulseaudio, kde-desktop, gnome-desktop, etc. If you’re uninstalling something like that you better hit confirm twice because that’s not typical behavior.

Right, it was clearly LTT’s fault for not reading, but automatic upgrades are the same thing as not reading. I’ve been using Linux for a very long time now, and I’ve seen Apt try to do some very stupid things before. Maybe it’s better nowadays but I don’t know if I’ll ever shake the gut instinct to not allow Apt to do whatever it thinks is right.

I think auto-upgrading Debian Stable is probably the one exception I’d make to “no blind upgrades”, though I still don’t feel comfortable recommending it due to potential dependency/apt problems that could somehow happen. In the case of Debian Stable it barely ever has package upgrades anyway so I’d just do it manually once a week and it would take like 30 seconds to grab 4 packages. If you’re public-facing you might want a tighter system for notifying about security upgrades, or just auto-upgrade security patches.

I’m not a real sysadmin so take it with a grain of salt, but in all reality this is probably why you would choose something like Debian for a server instead a bleeding-edge distro. Debian quickly backports security updates and fixes but otherwise keeps everything else stable and extremely well-tested, which pretty much 100% prevents serious bugs from reaching its Stable branch. You may still need to figure out an appropriate strategy for keeping your Mastodon container updated, but at least the rest of your system isn’t at risk of causing catastrophic errors like this. Also, Debian Stable does allow you to auto-upgrade security patches only, if you still want that functionality.

Blind automatic upgrades are a bad idea even for casual home users. You could run into a Linus Tech Tips “do as I say” scenario where it uninstalls half your system due to a dependency issue. Or it could accidentally uninstall part of your system that you don’t notice.

I’m not sure how stable Gentoo’s default branch is but I know that daily upgrades on Arch Linux is close to suicide - you have a higher chance of installing a buggy package before it’s fixed if you install every package version as it comes in.

I’m surprised this strategy was approved for a public server - it’s playing with a loaded revolver and it looks like you were finally shot.