Apple doesn’t send your contact info or other details into the cloud, all that shit is anonymized.
Are you sure about that ? It is written in their Legal Privacy Policy in the chapter “Personal Data Apple Collects from You”:
Contact Information. Data such as name, email address, physical address, phone number, or other contact information
Doesn’t seems so anonymized to me…
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I may not be very well informed about it, I admit. Would you have documents to share ? All I seem to find about Intel security engine is about how closed it is and how it has been exploited by bad actors in the past to gain elevated privileges in targeted hacks. It sucks, that’s for sure. But it doesn’t have much to do with the mass data collection employed by Google, Apple, Open AI, etc.
Come on… You telling me they have to collect all this data to offer the service ? They have to send your health information to the main server to provide you your daily step count ?
Having it all disclose in the privacy policy is a formality. Honestly, have you read it carefully before buying your first iPhone? And review it again every time they’ve updated it?
Today you seem satisfied with the amount of data they collect about you and how they use it. Where do you set the boundaries? When would it be too far for you, making you reconsider using these products?
I am not trying to offend you. I am legitimately interested.
but as far as I’m aware they’ve never been caught doing anything remotely out of scope of their tight knit privacy policies with user data
That’s every interesting point. Let’s read a bit of their privacy policy :
At Apple, we believe that you can have great products and great privacy. This means that we strive to collect only the personal data that we need.
Hum, interesting… What do they need?
Apple, we may collect a variety of information, including:
- Account Information. Your Apple ID and related account details, including email address, devices registered, account status, and age
- Device Information. Data from which your device could be identified, such as device serial number, or about your device, such as browser type
- Contact Information. Data such as name, email address, physical address, phone number, or other contact information
- Payment Information. Data about your billing address and method of payment, such as bank details, credit, debit, or other payment card information
- Transaction Information. Data about purchases of Apple products and services or transactions facilitated by Apple, including purchases on Apple platforms
- Fraud Prevention Information. Data used to help identify and prevent fraud, including a device trust score
This one is particularly interesting, very very ambitious, this could be anything! What is the device trust score?
- Usage Data. Data about your activity on and use of our offerings, such as app launches within our services, including browsing history; search history; product interaction; crash data, performance and other diagnostic data; and other usage data
- Location Information. Precise location only to support services such as Find My or where you agree for region-specific services, and coarse location
- Health Information. Data relating to the health status of an individual, including data related to one’s physical or mental health or condition. Personal health data also includes data that can be used to make inferences about or detect the health status of an individual. If you participate in a study using an Apple Health Research Study app, the policy governing the privacy of your personal data is described in the Apple Health Study Apps Privacy Policy.
- Fitness Information. Details relating to your fitness and exercise information where you choose to share them
- Financial Information. Details including salary, income, and assets information where collected, and information related to Apple-branded financial offerings
- Government ID Data. In certain jurisdictions, we may ask for a government-issued ID in limited circumstances, including when setting up a wireless account and activating your device, for the purpose of extending commercial credit, managing reservations, or as required by law
- Other Information You Provide to Us. Details such as the content of your communications with Apple, including interactions with customer support and contacts through social media channels
Ok, it’s difficult for them to violate their own privacy policy when they literally reserve themselves the right to get anything they want.
BTW, some user-rights associations are not in agreement with Apple on this. Here is one example I could fine very quick: France fines Apple over App Store ad targeting ePrivacy breach | TechCrunch
Intel and AMD security platforms are shit, I know they exist, I don’t trust them either, but the threat model is very different from this AI application. They don’t upload my photos to a server out of my control.
No source-code, no trust. How good is my data on their super secure servers if they have the encryption keys.
How good is a 3rd party scrutiny if those are mandated and paid by Apple to make the audits?
Who is this someone you’re talking about, FuglyDuck ?
Privacy?
Signal displays text bubbles in all sorts of colors. But I feel the encryption is stronger when the bubble is pink 🩷
Ah… Perfectly arranged, as all things should be 😘🤌🫴
Soon, you will become one with the hive. Do not resist.
They really nailed the “game-design” and community aspects of their website to give the insentive to publish to Printables rather than competitors. I find myself very excited to unlock badges and collect Prusameters !
Lol, do (or did) they really exist ?
Most ridiculous are gold-plated HDMI cables.
Snake blood, upgraded version of snake oil ?
Saying Apple is much better than TikTok, Meta and Google, is just setting the bare very low… Apple advertise heavily about how privacy oriented they are, it’s only fair to compare them to other privacy champions (regardless of company size) e.g. Proton, Signal.
I absolutely agree with you. It’s not possible for most to be a security conscious self-hosting gourou, and we can’t expect for everyone to care about digital privacy and security. It’s why I see it as our duty, as more tech-savy people, to set the standard for the industry, advocate and lobby for the companies to do better.
You don’t ask nurse to set the safety standards for electrical installations, but everyone benefits from electricians and engineers defining and setting these safety standards !
It’s actually not that people don’t care about privacy. It’s they don’t know about privacy, because they don’t think about it, and it’s alright. But ask someone random to hand you over their phone unlocked and start browsing their photos. They will care.
Anyway, I’m glad we could have an educating conversation here. I got to learn a couple of things :)