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  • Also, congrats on being the worst type of argumentative person: you said on the previous “getting angry is the first step to get organized”, I give you one example where you can get organized and your response is a complete dishonest misinterpretation bullshit about “starting your own telecom”.

    This “so you’re saying” crap is 100% a tell for the terminally online, intellectual-yet-idiots types who can do nothing but blame their failures on something else other than themselves. It’s tiring.



  • My point is: getting angry is not enough, and a competition to see who seems the angriest or says the most disparaging thing ends up becoming performative action.

    What I’d like to see is people showing real skin in the game. Telcos in the US are running a racket and abuse their de-facto monopoly? Then how about we start looking into companies that provide mesh networks like Fon?

    To put in real terms: I know for a fact that I could offer you unlimited phone calls for ~$15 month and have a healthy sustainable operation, but I need at least 100 people to sign up to this just to setup the basic infra. Everyone would be able to make and receive phone and texts, but they would lose some convenient features provided by larger carriers. Are you “so angry” at the big corporations that you’d be willing to go get these 100 people, or is your anger just enough to fuel some occasional rant on an internet forum?


  • First, a bit of perspective: you were born in the richest country of the world and your salary alone is enough to put your family above the median national income. If you have a working spouse making half of that, your family would be around the 70th percentile. And again, we are talking about the richest country of the world. So, please stop complaining about losing some “birth lottery”.

    Second, if the system has failed you, getting angry at some of the players can feel cathartic but is nothing more than a coping mechanism. It does little to nothing to actually find for a way to fix your problems. How can one help you to find a way to direct the energy from this anger to something productive?









  • I completely agree with talking with the mods in the subreddits, but I can not possibly see how Reddit Inc will ever greenlight something like this. In a way, I’m actually hoping they will try to ban it because it would create some type of Streisand Effect.

    They can try to ban the first or the second fediverser API key used by the fediverser app that I bring online, but if tens/hundreds of people start doing it, this would mean effectively that we will grow an army of independent crawlers and evangelizers for Lemmy and the fediverse in general.




  • Thank you for not dismissing my work right away and giving some more time and thought into it, I really appreciate it. I think that there is a lot in your feedback that makes a lot of sense:

    • Having an automod post certainly would help. It would give a strong signal that the community on reddit is trying to migrate away from it. I think this could be achieved on the communities that were more vocal during the protests, but on the other hand I already had the experience on /r/emacs and there was a strong rejection from (some of) their moderators.
    • I was initially against the idea of making a two-way bridge to post Lemmy comments there, but I’m starting to accept it. I’m still not sure how that would work in terms of API usage and if this would incur costs for those running the fediverser servers (on top of the costs of running Lemmy) but I’m willing to try it out.
    • Speaking with the people in the big instances is something I’m already doing (or at least I’m trying to by posting about the tool in different communities before unleashing it) :)
    • The idea is not to automate everything and create a “firehose of reddit bots” here. I was talking with the admin of programming.dev yesterday and we seem to agree to cap “fediversed” posts to a maximum of 25% of “organic” posts that the community had in the previous day. We can also agree that link posts should not have the comments, and that “self posts” with questions or topical discussions can bring some of the comment threads. This means that the very small communities would be seeing only one post a day, and the ones that are growing or more established would never be suddenly taken over by the bot army.

    Some of the other things though, I think will be harder to change or compromise, and if the admins or mods reject the proposal I will flat out not use the tool there:

    • I do not see the point in creating a separate community. I am fully aware that the bots and their automated posts should never become a sizable part of the community, but I feel like that if keep them separate them it ends up being as toothless as lemmit.online.

    • I do not want to ask permission from Reddit to do this. They’ve already been quite hostile to the third-party devs that were willing to work together, I can only imagine that they would never be welcoming to someone who’s is clearly aiming at getting their most valuable individuals in their userbase.

    • The idea to let reddit users register and take over their bot accounts is fundamental to this project. I want to make it very clear that this whole thing is a strategy to get people into the fediverse and put strong focus on the content creators of small-to-medium communities. I am trying to bootstrap a business around it and this is my attempt at increasing the TAM. The more people on the fediverse/threadiverse, the more SMB segment will look into establishing their media presence on the fediverse as well, and then I can start to actually have a sustainable operation.



  • I expect that an “anger” response will probably be more likely than any other response, which will harm adoption.

    Only if you assume that the majority of people are on reddit because they have a strong connection to the platform instead of the network, which I really believe to be false.

    And also, not what I have experienced with the emacs community. The number of people that responded favorably to an invite was a lot higher than the number of people who showed lack of interest and non-respondents combined.

    IMO, work should be focused on spreading awareness in a non-assertive way about why moving from Reddit to Lemmy is the “correct” choice.

    Content is king, there is no way around it. Social networks can survive “fail whales” just fine. Bugs on Lemmy can be fixed. What can not be fixed without a major effort is the fact that Lemmy is losing active users and that people on reddit are already adapting to the “new normal” of crappy mobile apps, puppet mods and Surveillance Capitalism.