III is ok but I wouldn’t say it’s bad. At least not as bad as TMP and V. There’s always people being contrarians about movies though. The general consensus is that TMP is super boring.

Of course everyone has their own taste. Maybe some people like how slow TMP is. It’s a very different movie from the Abrams series so I wouldn’t automatically invalidate someone who liked it but not the new ones. I can’t stand Abrams’ hectic/ADHD filming style so I’ve never liked his take on ST. But that doesn’t mean the old ones are all good, the TNG movies are basically all trash except for first contact.

Discovery and Picard are just bad shows to me, especially Picard. It annoys me when people try to reduce criticism to just not liking something new. The Abrams movies and Discovery depart from previous iterations in some really important ways to the point that they don’t feel like the same franchise anymore.

Also really annoys me when people bring up some of the TNG movies to “prove” that old trek did some of the same annoying things, when those movies are also bad and widely criticized.

I do like SNW though. Better than Enterprise and probably Voyager as well.

Well that also undid the lore that says all the humanoid races have a common ancestor which I thought was one of the few good pieces of ST lore.

No one really does that though. The Motion Picture being a bad a movie is widely acknowledged by pretty much everyone. The classics are II-VI, except for V which also sucks.