TBF those had to grow on me, especially the first ones. They were actually challenging, due to changes in how exp gain is scaled. Plethora of activities after the game ends is something that got me hooked for a long time in Black 2, which overall I think I enjoyed a lot more than 1

I never really played Pikmin. Never had a Nintendo console other than GBC growing up. Then I played DS/3DS and a Switch. I don’t get the appeal now that it’s fourth entry in the series.