The amount of copilots are getting out hand, are people able to keep track of all of them?

The copilot autocomplete and copilot chat are great QoL tools, but trying to have it generate complete PR for a given issue seems… optimistic.

I’m surprised Matthew concludes that it might actually be useful for some people honestly.

I’m curious what’s triggering you, as of writing this comment, the (5) comments I see are all reasonable explanations that tries to help OP understand the language.

Upvotes does not necessarily mean people agree with OP’s stance.

I’ve thought about it, but I’m personally not a fan of javascript. My last side project included some JS and it was the aspect I enjoyed the least of it.

Kotlin throws lots of new stuff and rules at you in the beginning.

Out of curiosity, what sort of new stuff are we talking about? I’d assume it’s a more robust language than java based on its origin.

Kotlin certainly was the language I was mostly expecting to get recommended, but is there anything specific about it that makes it more suitable for simple mobile projects?

My web experience is limited to some basic javascript for a documentation tool I’ve made. Other than that my experience is mostly lower level C and python. No direct GUI work.

Multiplatform isn’t much of a concern as it will be a cold day in hell before I ever consider buying an apple product.

Lemmy and reddit aren’t an option for you?

If you haven’t watched yourself from the outside, how do you know “there are zero issues with it”? You might be constantly breaking the typing flow and need to use a two-hand combo for some mundane [].

Because I don’t have the issue you’re projecting. And if someone do have that issue, what type of programmer (assuming no physical disabilities) has their productivity limited by their typing speed? No one would be my guess.

While someone on a US layout never needs to lift their hands of the keys, because all they need is a ctrl with a pinky + right hand within reach.

Cool, same here , just that sometimes we press alt gr instead of ctrl.

When I learn a new language, I also learn a keyboard layout for it. Or do you also write in Spanish on your keyboard? How do you make an à and an á?

ctrl + \ and then a for à and alt gr + \ then a for á. It’s really not much of a hurdle. And definitely faster than trying to learn a new keyboard layout that I can’t type on without looking.

Ah, that’s right, you speak two languages, you’re stuck using your comfort zone layout, and you’d ofc argue “zero issues”.

Are we talking actual languages or programming languages? Either case, you assumption is wrong. I don’t understand where all your antagonistic energy is coming from. It’s just a keyboard layout, there isn’t a single correct one. Just use what you’re used to and that you can write with a good flow, which for most people will be the layout they grew up with and can type in the blind with.

You’re on /c/programming.

Could just as well have been a writing prompt community. It’s just writing ANSI characters for the most part.

Also, it’s even ISO standardized, so yeah, it’s an international norm.

I’d wish something being ISO meant it’s the norm, but that’s just not the case. #ISO8601Gang

Pragmatically: most programming languages are developed in a way to that it’s easy to type them up on a standard us layout. As English only has 26 letters, which is less than any other language using the latin alphabet (don’t even start me on languages with accents like ñ or that differentiate between à, a, á, and â), all the special characters are usually easily accessible. Most others layouts will tuck them away behind non-trivial combinations in favor of improving accessibility of extra letters and special characters. Cuz essentially in human language you barely need * and [. So, I guess, right ctrl + left shift + 9 will do? how do you feel about coding in python on that. Or on a keyboard where the space for your | has been allocated to some letter ø and your OR operator has been moved to the numpad.

As a user of a keyboard layout with æ, ø, å, who also uses python daily, I can promise you that there are zero issues with it.

Most people will grow up with a keyboard layout designed for their native language’s need. If it uses Latin characters, there should be minimal issues using it for programming too.

Never used a US keyboard in my life. Why would you think US keyboard is the norm?

What’s up with that capitalisation, I thought it was about git lfs at first, really confused me lol

I really fail to see your problem here. “There is no activity in that community” maybe that is because everyone posts to c/programming instead, causing a negative feedback loop. Crossposting doesn’t cost you any engagement.

It’s also peak entitlement to berate the guy doing the most amount of work on this instance to keep it active and going for not posting enough content just because you didn’t like what the bot told you. A single bot informing people that there are other, more suitable, communities that would benefit from a crosspost isn’t spam.

I’m curious on why you would recommend Lua if available. Is language speed a typical limiting factor for your scripts?

I’m mostly asking since when I was forced to use the language it was nothing but annoyance. The 1 indexing and “if then/for do” will annoy me till my grave.

Happy to be proved wrong if you cite your scientific sources though.

People who can type and type fast(-ish) communicate more expressively, document more comprehensively, make less mistakes when spelling, etc.

That’s just pure conjecture on your part though

Vim if I’m on Linux, notepad++ if I’m on windows. Though I will use VSCode in both OS if want to make a lot of changes and run the file.

Used it once at it works well, would certainly recommend for those us with too many extensions.

For larger projects, JetBrain’s IDEs, except VSCode for JS related stuff. A full IDE is simply so much nicer when you got a lot of stuff going on in multiple files, which is a weak point for VSCode in my experience.

For smaller projects/single file scripts, VSCode works just fine. The amount of plugins available also makes it very suitable of you are dealing with non text based files like UML.

For small text files I prefer npp for its light weight.

Other than text editors, git is mandatory for all projects for obvious reasons, and WSL if I’m on windows.

Since nobody else have said it, Python. It’s quick and easy to set up all kinds scripts with it. No need to compile and most Linux distros comes with python pre installed so you’re are just one ctrl+v or git clone away from being able to run your scripts.

You got libraries for all sorts of things, and if you need performance, C and Rust interface all nicely with it. Just remember to use type hints.

Documentation is a big thing that’s unfortunately often overlooked. It’s not as sexy as adding new features or fixing elusive bugs, but it can really make or break a project for others to use.